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Ermingarden ([personal profile] ermingarden) wrote2021-10-12 09:01 am
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Imaginative: Too Like the Lightning

Day seven of the meme, posted on day...twelve. Better late than never!

7. The most imaginative book you've seen lately

I was briefly tempted to say Winterblumensaat, but that's imaginary, which isn't quite the same thing. (Yuletide drama came early this year: Someone seems to have tried to get two completely nonexistent canons into the tagset, presumably to pad their requests and force a match on the one canon they want...don't know if we've seen that tactic before! Mods caught it, anyway, but a bunch of people have responded by posting fic for it.)


I'm going with Too Like the Lightning by Ada Palmer (and the Terra Ignota series generally) for this one. Reading Too Like the Lightning is a pretty overwhelming experience. There's just so much going on! Palmer does fascinating things with novel political systems, religion, gender...all told in the style of an eighteenth-century novel, with possibly the world's most neurotic (and often unreliable) narrator. It's a utopian novel more than anything else, and really gets into ethical issues about what is justifiable in service of maintaining a society that is in many ways better than ours, but still deeply flawed.

Note: When I first picked up a copy I thought Palmer was doing something deeply cissexist with gender; then I read further and realized she was actually doing something very different – exploring how the fact that gender is a social construct doesn't mean it doesn't exist, just that we made it, and now we have to deal with the thing we made rather than pretending it will go away if we ignore it.

The remaining questions:
8. A book that feels like it was written just for you

9. A book that reminds you of someone

10. A book that belongs to a specific time in your mind, caught in amber

11. A book that came to you at exactly the right time

12. A book that came to you at the wrong time

13. A book with a premise you'd never seen before quite like that

14. A book balanced on a knife edge

15. A snuffed candle of a book

16. A book you'd take with you while you were being ferried on dark underground rivers

17. A book that taught you something about yourself

18. A book that went after its premise like an explosion

19. A book that started a pilgrimage

20. A frigid ice bath of a book

21. A warm blanket of a book

22. A book written into your psyche

23. A book that made you bleed

24. A book that asked a question you've never had an answer to

25. A book that answered a question you never asked

26. A book you recommend but cannot love

27. A book you love but cannot recommend

28. A book you adore that people are surprised by

29. A book you detest that people are surprised by

30. A book that led you home
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[personal profile] pauraque 2021-10-12 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
The fake German books saga made me wonder if anyone's ever successfully gotten a phoney fandom past the mods, or what it would take to make it happen. At the very least, you'd need a way more elaborate scheme to seed references to it over many years, I would think. I guess it would have been easier back in the early 2000s when Yuletide was new, the modding process was less of a well-oiled machine, and online records were less comprehensive... but at that point, maybe nobody was invested enough in Yuletide yet to bother with such a diabolical plot.
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[personal profile] atamascolily 2021-10-12 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Just wow. Watching people try to game the Yuletide system is wild. I had no idea! At a certain point, it seems like it would be faster and easier just to write the fic yourself, but then I have lots of Yuletide fandoms I'm interested in/want to write for, so making one up just seems kinda pointless on multiple levels.

I actually love the wild-card aspect to it all; with most exchanges, I have a pretty good idea of who I'm going to be matched with and what I'm going to get based on sign-ups, but Yuletide is so big and has so many rare things, I have no idea (at least until the author posts it, and then I can usually make some guesses based on the fandom listings in the collection. But even then, it's not a guarantee.)

My favorite part is the fact that it doesn't take much to spawn a fandom--a joke, a parody, an idea, an anthropomorphic concept can all spawn a new subgenre within hours. It's a testament to human ingenuity and creativity that we're just Like This, and I love it.
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[personal profile] dolorosa_12 2021-10-13 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Like you, I've been boggling at the Yuletide fake-novel drama, and like you I find watching these things unfold incredibly compelling. I have to admit I struggle to comprehend a mindset where you can be so wedded to the idea of getting a gift in a single fandom that you genuinely have zero interest in gifts from any other and have to resort to this kind of gaming of the system. (I always have very limited fandoms for which I can write, and there are ways to game the system to try to guarantee I get them, but the idea of gaming it for my own gifts is so alien.)

I totally agree with everything you've said about the Terra Ignota books — they're so incredibly ambitious, and so successful at what they're trying to do. I'm just on the verge of rereading the first three in anticipation of the final book being published this month (although I have to wait for my husband to finish Too Like the Lightning first).